Origins of Anti-Brahminism

The true prophets of the anti-Brahmin message were no doubt the Christian missionaries. In the sixteenth century, Francis Xavier wrote that Hindus were under the spell of the Brahmanas, who were in league with evil spirits, and that the elimination of Brahminism was the first priority in the large operation of bringing Salvation to the wretched Pagans of India. In this endeavour, he strongly advocated and practiced the use of force. Unfortunately for him, the Portuguese government could not always spare the troops which he so passionately asked for. Still, the destruction wrought by Francis Xavier was impressive, and he has described the joy he felt on seeing idols being smashed and temples demolished.[1]

Within the Portuguese territories, physical persecution of Paganism naturally hit the Brahmins hardest. Treaties with Hindu kings had to stipulate explicitly that the Portuguese must not kill Brahmins. But in the case of Christian anti-Brahminism, these physical persecutions were a small matter compared to the systematic ideological and propagandistic attack on Brahminism, which has conditioned the views of many non-missionaries and has by now been amplified enormously because Secularists, Akalis, Marxists and Muslims have joined the chorus. In fact, apart from anti-Judaism, the anti-Brahmin campaign started by the missionaries is the biggest vilification campaign in world history (emphasis added).

While the Portuguese mission establishment was unanimous in branding the Brahmins as the chief obstacle to the Salvation of India, there was some dissent concerning the tactics to be employed against them. Robert de Nobili believed in fraud rather than force. He dressed as a Brahmin, and taught the Yesurveda, a fifth Veda which had been lost in India, but which the emigrant community of Romaka [Roman] Brahmins had preserved. He seems to have had a few followers, but after his death, nothing remained of his infiltration movement. Recently he has been declared the patron saint of the theology of inculturation,[2] and his method is being actualised and perfected in the Christian ashrams.[3]

De Nobili’s approach was one possible application of the Jesuits larger strategy, which aimed at converting the elite in the hope that they would carry the masses with them. This approach had been tried in vain in China, in Japan, and even at the Moghul court (today, it is finally meeting with a measure of success in South Korea). A practical implication of this strategy was that Christianity had to be presented as a noble and elitist religion. This came naturally to the Jesuits, who (unlike, for instance, the Franciscans) styled themselves as an elite order.

Most importantly, that stage of missionary endeavour did not make use of any populist or democratic rhetoric of equality. At that time, political equality was not yet on the ideological agenda. On the contrary, even when in the eighteenth and nineteenth century, equality became a political hot item, the Church opposed it tooth and nail, and supported the aristocratic ancien regime and its restoration after the fall of Napoleon. Only in the late nineteenth century, when atheist socialism lured the urban masses away from Christianity, did the Church evolve what is known as the social teachings of the Church, formulated in encyclicals like Rerum Novarum. Before that time, any opposition of the Catholic Church (and of most Protestant Churches) against the caste system and the Brahmin caste had strictly nothing to do with a concern for social equality.

Recent claims that equality is an intrinsic and cardinal virtue of Christianity, and that the apostle Thomas came to India in AD 52 with a message of equality, abolition of caste, and women’s rights, are so many lies. Thus, C.A. Simon writes: “The oppressed and downtrodden followed [St. Thomas] and claimed equal status in society as it was denied them by the prevailing social norms. He condemned untouchability and attempted to restore equal status for women.” That St. Thomas ever came to India is already a myth, only kept alive in India with a lot of Christian-cum-secularist media effort; that he came with an Ambedkarist and feminist message is just ridiculous.

The source of the Thomas legend is an apocryphal text called the Acts of Thomas. If the [Jesuits and other Christian] missionaries want to continue to present it as history rather than legend, they should accept the consequences. In that case, they must tell the public about the way in which Thomas’s journey to India started, according to the very same text: he left Palestine because his twin brother Jesus sold him as a slave (Thomas is also called Didymus, “the twin brother”). They must give details of the destructive sorcery which Thomas practised, as in his first miracle, when he made a lion devour a boy for being impolite.

They must
tell the public that Thomas was put to death not by the ugly Brahmins but by the king who, after having had a lot of patience with him, and after offering him a safe exit from the country, decided to put a stop to his practice of luring women away from their homes and putting them in sackcloth and ashes behind locked doors, etc.

Briefly, if it is true that the apostle Thomas came to India, then the following is also true:

  • Thomas was an antisocial character;
  • Jesus was a slave trader;
  • Thomas was Jesus’s twin brother, implying that the four canonical Gospels are unreliable sources which have concealed a crucial fact, viz. that Jesus was not God’s Only Begotten Son. In fact, Jesus and Thomas were God’s twin-born sons. In other words, accepting the Thomas legend as history is equivalent to exploding the doctrinal foundation of Christianity.

The original Christian doctrine on equality has been expressed by St. Paul, who opposed attempts by slaves to free themselves because we have all been freed in Christ and that should be enough. St. Paul’s Letter to Philemon [in the New Testament Bible] is actually a covering note which he sent along with a runaway slave whom he returned to the legal owner, the Christian convert Philemon.[4]

A Christian Bible commentary, The Lion Handbook to the Bible edited by David and Pat Alexander, admits: “Slavery was such an integral part of the social structure of the day that to preach freedom would have been tantamount to revolution. Paul’s brief was not to engage in political campaigning but to preach a Gospel capable of transforming human life from within.” This is a poor excuse: religious pluralism was also an integral part of the dominant culture, and yet Christianity confronted and destroyed it. Why should God make compromises with the world? The fact of the matter is that St. Paul wanted to convert people to his own belief system, and that he was not interested in other, non-Salvationist pursuits such as social reform.

If the missionaries were sincerely unhappy with the institution of caste, it was not because of its intrinsic inequality. The problem with caste was that it offered a lot of communal togetherness, social security and a certain pride in one’s caste identity. Through the missionary propaganda, we have come to see caste as an exclusion-from, but in the first place it is a belonging-to [a community]. Even for the lowest castes, humiliation by higher placed people on account of caste did not outweigh the considerable benefits of belonging to at least some caste.

This caste cohesion is an important reason why Hinduism could survive where the cultures of West Asia disappeared under the onslaught of Islam. The missionaries found that people were not willing to give up their caste by converting to Christianity, which implied breaking with a number of caste customs.

The only way to convert people, was to convert entire caste groups and allow them to retain some of their caste identity.Therefore, far from abolishing caste, the Church allowed caste distinctions to continue even within its own structure and functioning. Pope Gregory XV (1621-1623) formally sanctioned caste divisions in the Indian Church. This papal bull confirmed earlier decisions of the local Church hierarchy in 1599 and 1606.

It is therefore not true that the Church’s motivation in blackening the Brahmins had anything to do with a concern for equality. The Church was against equality in the first place, and even when equality became the irresistible fashion, the Church allowed caste inequality to continue wherever it considered it opportune to do so. As a missionary has admitted to me: in Goa, many churches still have separate doors for high-caste and low-caste people, and caste discrimination at many levels is still widespread. Commenting on the persistence of caste distinctions in the Church, a Dalit convert told me: I feel like a frog who has jumped from one muddy pool into another pool just as muddy.

Whenever the Church feels it should accommodate existing caste feelings in settled Christian communities, it accepts them; and whenever it thinks it profitable to take a bold anti-caste stand before a Dalit public, it will do just that. It is true that contemporary missionaries, who have grown up with the idea of social equality, mostly have a sincere aversion for caste inequality, and are more dependable when it comes to conducting Church affairs in a caste-neutral way (as opposed to Indian Christians who insistently claim descent from high-caste converts). But when considering the missionary machine as a whole, we must say that the missionary commitment to equality and social justice is not sincere, but is an opportunistic policy motivated by a greed for conversions.

In the past century, the Churches one after another came around to the decision that the lower ranks of society should be made the prime target of conversion campaigns. Finding that the conversion of the high-caste people was not getting anywhere, they settled for the low-castes and tribals, and adapted their own image accordingly. One implication was that the Brahmins were no longer just the guardians of Paganism, but also the antipodes of the low-castes on the caste ladder. A totally new line of propaganda was launched: Brahmins were the oppressors of the low-caste people.

In the proliferating mission schools, the missionary version of Indian history, including its view on caste, was taught to Indian pupils, and many interiorized the hostile and motivated story which they had been fed. One of them was Jotirao Phule of Maharashtra, the first modern leader to be called Mahatma. His position, while not yet all-out anti-Hindu, was strongly anti-Brahmin. He wrote:

“The Brahmin’s natural (instinctive) temperament is mischievous and cantankerous, and it is so inveterate that it can never be eradicated.”

Then again, the Aryan Invasion theory was the alpha and omega of the version of India history spread by anti-Brahminism.[5] Phule’s book Slavery starts out with this view of history: “Recent researches have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Brahmins were not the Aborigines of India…. Aryans came to India not as simple emigrants with peaceful intentions of colonisation, but as conquerors. They appear to have been a race imbued with very high notions of self, extremely cunning, arrogant and bigoted.”

For Phule, there could be no progress for the low-caste people without taking harsh anti-Brahmin measures, e.g.: “Let there be schools for the Shudras in every village, but away with all Brahmin schoolmasters.”

This is exactly what the missionary school-builders wanted him to say. Through Phule, the missionary indoctrination has influenced all twentieth century anti-Brahmin leaders.

Even among the champions of the Hindu cause, anti-Brahminism acquired a following. The Hindu reform movement Arya Samaj rejected Brahminism and its heretical brainchildren, idolatry and the caste system, as utterly non-Vedic. Brahmin temples were desecrated in the name of Hinduism. Orthodox Brahmins were attacked as the traitors of Hindu interests.

Thus, it was said in those circles that when in the 1880s the Maharaja of Kashmir wanted to reconvert the forcibly converted Muslims in his domains, the Brahmins rejected this timely proposal, arguing from their obscurantist shastras that one is only a Hindu by birth.

This well-known allegation has been argued to be unhistorical (though of course nobody denies that mindlessly scripturalist Brahmins do exist, in dwindling numbers): it cannot be traced farther back than 1946, sixty years after the facts which it claims to describe. Admittedly, this argumentum e silentio is not strong in itself, but it is strengthened by the fact that Brahmins have reconverted ex-Hindus ever since the forcible conversions by Mohammed bin Qasim in AD 712. The ritual effecting conversion into the Arya fold has been available and in use since Vedic times.

There is ample Christian testimony from the sixteenth to the nineteenth century that the majority of converts were taken back into the Hindu fold, and that those who remained Christian were mostly the individuals who, driven out of their castes on account of their vices or scandalous transgressions of their usages, are shunned afterwards by everybody (quoted by Jeevan Kulkarni in Historical Truths & Untruths Exposed). The people affected by this conversion and reconversion process were mostly, but not exclusively, from the lower castes.

Just as well, the missionaries knew whom to hold responsible for their failure: “The Brahmin is therefore well worth looking at! We have more to do with him than with the Czar of all the Russians. The battle we have to fight with him is not against guns or rifles, not against flesh and blood.” This assessment, written in a mood of vexation by Rev. Norman MacLeod in 1871, was comparatively mild next to what Abbe Dubois had written (and of which MacLeod approved) in 1820: “And there is no stronghold of evil so impregnable as Brahmins”.

The well-spring of anti-Brahminism is doubtlessly the Christian missionaries greedy design to rope in the souls of Hindus. From there onwards, it spread through the entire English-educated class and ultimately became an unquestionable dogma in India’s political parlance. Communist historians and sociologists have been fortifying it by rewriting Indian history as a perennial struggle between Brahmin oppressors and the rest. When defending the Mandal report in 1990, the then Prime Minister of India V.P. Singh could say that Brahmins have to do penance for the centuries of oppression which they inflicted on the Backwards, without anyone questioning his historical assumptions. Anti-Brahminism is now part of the official doctrine of the secular, socialist Republic of India.[6]


1. Francis Xavier’s greatest success, though he didn’t live to see it, was to have the Holy Inquisition brought to Goa. The extraordinary perversions and cruelty practised by this Church tribunal against the native Goan population have been recorded in The Goa Inquisition by A.K. Priolkar.

2. Not only Robert de Nobili, but St. Thomas is being roped in as a mascot of inculturation. Ivan Fernandez, in “Hindu-Christian Dialogue Produces Results”, in the Jesuit magazine Jivan, May-June 1994, New Delhi, writes, “Hindu scholars have for the first time accepted Christian contribution to Indian philosophy and conceded that Indian philosophy does not necessarily mean Hindu philosophy…. Some of the issues raised [in the symposium organised by the Indian Council of Philosophical Research and the Jesuit Philosophical Research Institute, Madras,] asked if there actually were Christian thinkers in the country. If so, what were their framework and concerns?… It is important to raise these issues since the Christian presence in India dates back to the beginning of the Christian era itself. Tradition says, St. Thomas the Apostle, who visited and preached in Kerala … was martyred in Madras. This seminar is not just meant to prove Christian contribution but to demand one’s membership in society as a grown up….” says Anand Amaladass. “Indian philosophy today cannot be considered the property of any one particular community in the country, even if its major contribution has come from, till now, the Hindu community”.

3. See Catholic Ashrams: Sannyasin or Swindlers by Sita Ram Goel, New Delhi, 2010

4. For St. Paul on slavery see Ephesians 6:5-9, Colossians 3:22-25 & 4:1, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Philemon. See also 1 Peter 2:18-25, which begins: “Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the forward.”

5. It should be understood here that the theory has been proved to be false. See Shrikant G. Talageri’s Aryan Invasion Theory and Indian Nationalism and K.D. Sethna’s Karpasa in Prehistoric India: A Chronological and Cultural Clue.

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Belgian Author and Orientalist :A Graduate in Philosophy, Chinese Studies and Indo-Iranian Studies at the Catholic University of Leuven. He frequently returns to India to study various aspects of its ethno-religio-political configuration and interview Hindu and other leaders and thinkers. His research on the ideological development of Hindu revivalism earned him his Ph.D. in Leuven in 1998. He has also published about multiculturalism, language policy issues, ancient Chinese history and philosophy, comparative religion, and the Aryan invasion debate.

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  1. Kshatriyas are the ones who protected hinduism since old ages. Brahmins just sit in temple and do false prays to show people. They kept the hindus under the fear of god and wrote rules according their convenience. They dont work, they just sit in temples and eat free food given by people’s hard earned money. Brahmins are a menace to hinduism. They are the ones divided hindus into several groups based on caste and put themselves on top of the hierarchy and made other groups suffer by dividing them based on varnas, castes, work etc. Because of them today hindus are not united and facing threat from other religions too. The main reason all the SC/STs converting to other religions is because of the suppression done by upper castes. when SC/STs are suppressed by own people they dont have any other choice to turn to external groups and take revenge against their own people. Today hinduism is in total danger because of these brahmins.

    • Hahahaha…..what are you talking about? Sage Vishwamitra was the one who taught archery and art of war to Sri Ram and Lakshmana. Every one knows the warrior Sage Drona and ofcourse Parasurama who vanquished the Kshatriyas 3 times on his own. Gurukool system in those days were conducted by Brahmins, and they taught people Vedas, Sanskrit, various sciences and apart from all that, even Martial arts, swordsmanship and archery etc were taught. Read the history, a Kshatriya knew his language and vedas, and similarly a brahmana knew his martial skills.

      Dont make wild guesses, things have been streotyped now, saying Brahmins just sit and pray and do rituals. its sad that it has come down to this thing. But saying that historically they were like this, is being dumb, and not willing to see the truth as it is. READ READ READ more before commenting.

        • Shallow knowledge..
          Both were valiant and could not be vanquished. Ultimately, they decided to stop fighting as it was inconclusive! Nobody was defeated here!!!

      • Brahmins r very corrupt. Lazy class. Brahmins do not like to work hard. They r full of themselves and full of pride . They think they r god and superior to others. They love to eat food from temples but dont like to work. They like fortune telling . And estimating future. They r dumb and lazy . And becoz they dont want to work they r poor

        • So you kmow whoninvented the valie of ZERO ?
          Do you know who Is the guru of space science ?
          Do you know who is the father of Ayurveda ?
          Do you know who Is the king of mathematics ?
          Do you know who Is the first Indian want to space ?
          Do you know who is Darren Sammy ?

        • By your diatribe without any basis you have proven you are dumb and fool and you are way below a Brahmin when it comes to brain.

    • Sodhi, seems to have read Marxist ideology more than anything else. If he had followed Dr. Subramanian Swamy’s speeches, blog and updates on FB, he would have known that the real ‘Varna’ vyavastha of India was different.

      I post here as a Brahmin who comes from the lineage of Lord Sri Rama. That means the old varna vyavastha had given us the opportunity to change the profiles. So the ‘Kshatriya profile’ got changed to ‘Brahman profile’.

      If he wants to check the same, I provide the names of the saints ‘Harita(sa), Ambarisha, Yavvanasva’ who belonged to Kshatriya clan and now are considered Brahman clan.

    • mr sodhi….have you read shivaji maharaj history where brahamans are fighting with the grate king who defend the hindu religion against muslims….have read about peshva who expand the maratha kindom till afganisthan(atak on pakistan afganistan border)

        • Brahmin samarth guru ram das was the guru of shivaji maharaj as u say few brahmin is oppose shivaji it is true but the majority of brahmin fully support the shivaji maharaj

    • • Taken from: Geeta saroddhara by Shri Shri Vishvesha teertha swamiji, Pejavara maTha, Udupi (Chapter no. 36)

      Translated to English by: Shri R Acharya and Shri R A Malagi

      The cause for gradation in devotion and religious practices lies in God’s own system of creation in consonance with the intrinsic nature and individuality of souls. God has not invented this difference or gradation. The individual qualities are natural and eternal; and it is but natural that there should be difference in the quality of aspirants in God’s creation, which is based on a set of facts like intrinsic difference of souls.

      cAturvarNyaM mayA sRuShTaM guNakarmavibhAgashaH |
      tasya kartAramapi mAM viddhyakartAramavyayam || 4.13 ||

      Sri Krishna says that He has Himself brought about this caste system in conformity with the nature and aptitude for work of the individual only. The superficial meaning of the above stanza is quite confusing. There is no reason for Sri Krishna to talk about caste system when he is describing the difference between people who perform action under the urge of desire and others who do it desirelessly. It is irrelevant, at this point, whether the society is divided into castes by birth or by qualities. So, we should not take the fourfold pattern to be wholly identical with the current caste system.

      Besides, it is contrary to fact to assert that individual qualities and ways depend on the caste division. Serenity of mind and discipline of the body are not the exclusive prerogative of any one caste. They may be found in people belonging to all the four castes. It is quite possible to find a higher sense of devotion and good conduct in a Vaishya or a Shudra than in a so-called high-caste Brahmin. There is no total consistency between the classification of souls on the basis of intrinsic virtues mentioned in the Geeta and the present caste system. And it would be unrealistic to forge a new system of castes on the basis of the intrinsic qualities and ways. One and the same person may behave in different ways in entirely different circumstances. In such a situation, it would be impracticable to go on changing the caste system from moment to moment, as the system is based on specialised cultivation, occupation and pursuit. Besides, it is also possible that much friction would be generated while determining the existence or absence of spiritual qualities. It may be possible to make use of the peculiar radiance of individual virtues while determining a person’s attainment. If we try to restructure society on the basis of individual assessment, we are but courting perpetual conflict. Hence it is clear that we can not divide a community into different social classes and castes on the basis of individual nature. Nor is it possible to adjust the classification by qualities with the present caste system. For example, a Brahmin is supposed to possess some virtues. But we see in every day life instances in which such virtues as are lacking in Brahmins are amply found in Non-Brahmins. How can we say that these virtues are the prerogatives of only those who are born in a Brahmin family and not of others? It would be a sheer contradiction of fact. Hence we must examine carefully the exact import of Sri Krishna’s reference to the caste system.

      Sri Madhvacharya has explained this point clearly in his commentary on the Geeta. He has explained that the four divisions of the caste system do not belong to the human body but to the soul; the souls are categorised into four groups depending upon their nature, quality and propensity. The good souls which are worthy of salvation are classified into four divisions. All these have a preponderance of the sattvaguNa the differentia among them is due to the permutations of the qualities of rajoguNa and tamoguNa only, and on the basis of this difference of combination only they are classified fourfold. Devotion to God and control over the senses are basic to all. They are divided into four classes only on the basis of the degree of the two great qualities possessed by each. Such is the fourfold system, based on the intrinsic nature of the soul, propounded in the Geeta.

      svAbhAvikO brAhmaNAdiH shamAdyairEva bhidyate |
      yOnibhEdakRuto bhEdO j~jEya caupAdhikastvayam |
      viShNubhaktishcAnugatA sarvavarNEShu vispatiM |
      Arabhya hIyatE&thApi bhEdaH svAbhAvikastataH ||

      (The natural differentiation into castes like Brahmins and others is according to the qualities of devotion to God etc., while the classification according to birth is conditioned by external factors.)

      We can resolve the society into four classes like Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra in two ways. One is by birth, and the other by the inner qualities of the soul. The former classification is conditional or artificial while the latter is intrinsic. It is not proper to judge a man only by the accident of his birth. We should judge him by his behaviour, deed and character. The latter method of classification appears to be more natural and more enduring, as it is based on the essential nature of the soul and not on the physical attributes.

      If categorisation into castes by birth is useful for social organisation and for the observance of religious ceremonies according to the prescriptions of the shastras, the division on the basis of the intrinsic nature of the souls is foundational being based on matters of spiritual practice and meditation.

      Even though by birth one is a Shudra, if he is rich in noble qualities like self-control and serenity of mind he is verily a Brahmin from the point of view of the soul. On the other hand, even if he is a Brahmin by birth, if he is poor in these qualities, he is verily a Shudra. Thus an individual should not be measured by his caste and birth only. We should assess him on the basis of his conduct, his intensity of devotion and intrinsic virtues.

      The physical body may be of a high caste Brahmin but it does not follow that the soul it covers is necessarily qualitatively superior. The import of the Geeta is that the greatness of the soul is to be measured by the yardstick of virtues reflected in his good deeds and good nature.

      Therefore in the Bhagavata it is said:
      A Pariah who is a devotee of God is far better than even a Brahmin if he is ungodly.

      In the Mahabharata parable of Dharmavyadha also it is stated:
      A Shudra with noble qualities like self-control and truthfulness is indeed a Brahmin; a man is to be identified as a Brahmin only by his noble deeds.

      In answering a question by Yaksha, it is stated that virtuous character alone is the distinguishing cause of being a Brahmin. All this is not written to cry down the present caste system. Its main purpose is to highlight the importance of good character and conduct in identifying noble souls.

      This does not mean the physical caste system in spite of its conditioning factors, laid down in our scriptures, is superfluous. It is most essential for determining the duties and responsibilities of each person and for religious pursuits. But we cannot determine the worthiness or otherwise of a soul for salvation just by considering his birth and caste. Even if we classify religious rituals and pursuits on the basis of the external attributes of caste and birth, we cannot determine the worthiness for salvation on that basis. We cannot also decide about the spiritual qualifications like devotion, prayerfulness etc. and the genuine honesty of a person on the basis of birth or caste. The one born as a Brahmin does not automatically possess great virtues like devotion and discipline. We have to assess a man only on the basis of right conduct and the particular combination of the three gunas. Good qualities and good nature should be discovered and honoured wherever and in whatever caste they are found. It is to enable us to identify this fundamental good nature among men that the Geeta has laid down this categorisation. The caste system referred to in the Geeta is not a classification based on accidental attributes of birth but a classification of good souls in our society. Such a classification which depends upon the essential, deeper qualities will bring about harmony among the members of the different communities for the good of the society as a whole, compensating for the gaps left by the caste system based on accidental features.

      According to the Geeta, the caste system is nothing but a community of noble souls. To them God has given physical bodies and other accessories and brought them into this world. Hence, He has helped us more than our parents and teacher. We should not forget such a Being and run after others inferior to Him for our worldly rewards. Hence all good souls are to be devoted entirely to the Supreme Lord of the Universe who is full of all the auspicious qualities. Forgetting Him we should not run after lesser deities, spirits or other persons for any worldly rewards. The Supreme Lord is one and only one. In Him we should have faith, confidence and devotion.

    • Ass Hole all you fucking kshetrayas learn art of war from Brahmins only, let it be Lord rama, or any one. by the way sivaji waged 18 wars of which 2 he won and 2 he retrived back remaining all were won by Peshwa Bajirao – Brahmin, Peshwa tantia tope was a Brahmin, Kuwari Manikarnika AKA Jhansi Lakshmibai is a Brahmin, Mangal Pandey is a Brahmin when all of us are fighting British what you fucking Kshtreya ass holes like Prince of Gwalior, Prince of Kashmir and that of Rajasthan were doing sucking dicks of British. Even today when you have a kargil fight you need Maj.Padmapani Acharaya, Flt.Lt. nachiketa, and Capt. Pandey stop this fucking Brahmin Bashing, Right from the Vedic times let it be Lord ParasuRama or till todays’ A.B.Vajpey it is only and only Brahmins who have saved India in all difficult times and they continue to do till the world exists, its only matter of our patience and your luck you and other anti brahmins are allowed to bark.

      • Good reply.. And since you mentioned AB Vajpayee here is one of my favourites.

        Sodhi – watch and learn

    • Yes, that’s why Brahman guru samarth ram das walked all the way from nasik to punjab, to have a word of discussion with hargobind. It was the myopic vision of hargobind to not to accept treaty, otherwise, history would have been different.

    • mr. sodhi The Param Vir Chakra (PVC) is India’s highest military decoration awarded for the highest degree of valour or self-sacrifice in the presence of the enemy.
      1-IC-521 Major Pt. Somnath Sharma 4th Battalion
      Kumaon Regiment Indian Army November 3, 1947 Badgam
      Jammu & Kashmir Posthumou
      2- IC-56959 Captain Pt. Manoj Kumar Pandey 1st Battalion 11th Gorkha Rifles Indian Army July 3, 1999 Khaluber/Juber Top Batalik sector Kargil, Jammu and Kashmir Posthumous
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      Chandra Shekhar Azad – Was part of Hindiustan Republican Association. Mentor of Bhagat Singh.
      Mangal Pandey – Associated with 1857 rebellion
      Rani Lakshmibai – Associated with 1857 rebellion
      Vinayak Damodar Savarkar
      Shivaram Rajguru- associate of Bhagat Singh and Sukhdev
      Nana Sahib Peshwa – Associated with 1857 rebellian.
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      Lokmanya Tilak – Was also part of Indian national congress
      Bakuteshwar Dutt(B.K. Dutt), Associate of Bhagat Singh.
      Pachlegaonkar Maharaj: Rashtra Sant, Founder of Mukteshvar Dal, Hindu Rashtra Sena. Social Activist. leader of Hyderabad Liberation Struggle.
      Yogendra Shukla – Revolutionary
      Baikuntha Shukla – Revolutionary
      C. Rajagopalachari – Last Governor-General of India, Ex-Chief Minister of Madras State
      Subramanya Bharathi – Revolutionary Tamil poet
      Swami Sahajanand Saraswati freedom fighter, peasant leader
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      Vanchinathan
      Wunnava Venkata Varaha Buchi Ramalingam
      V.V.S. Iyer
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      Chapekar brothers
      Mahadev Govind Ranade
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      Bhogaraju Pattabhi Sitaramayya
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      Venkatraman Ramakrishnan – Medicine/Physiology
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      Suresh Pachori – Environmental Scientist
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      Anil Kumble – Spin Bowler
      Avasarala Rao
      B.S. Chandrasekhar – Bowler
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    • This is how we fight within ourselves and give chance to others to divide and conquer.
      As per my opinion Sodi is not 100% right but he has valid point. I do not believe in mythology if it solely written by Bramhin’s, The mythology can be inspiration. But it inspire only certain group of people.I do not think lower cast people are inpired by Hindu Mythological story. If it is not inspiration to all Hindu How can be we united. All Hindu must need to understand they should stop blaming each other by taking example from mythology and history.
      Done is Done; now nobody can change it, But present and future is in our hand. So pls for god sake help each other and prod to be an Hindu, Not XYZ Hindu.

    • Definitely you must be a low caste! let’s move ahead beta/i : forget what was and let’s see what is! let’s call a rose by it’s name! grow man, grow!

    • 1. I have not read the whole article yet….but from the very first para it seemed christians were being blamed for anti-brahmin sentiments.
      2. I am born Kashmiri pandit and therefore a brahmin and nuturally biased towards brahmins.

      Now, to set records right.
      1. History of ancient India….(before christ was born) will tell you anti-brahminism in India started with Budhism. In fact Budha preached against hindu rituals and wanted to change how people perceived God.
      2. Budha was against the temple priests (also a class of brahmins) but he was not against those Brahmins who were teaching in gurukuls. All his teachers were Brahmins too.
      3. When Budhism left India and Brahmins came back into power (in King’s court) the great learned Brahmin named CHANAKYA….literally created BHARAT, which had fallen into pieces because corrupted Indian Kings were fighting amongst themselves. However Chanakya’s treatise on Politics set tone for more corruption in ruling class.
      4.Those corrupted ruling class and their so called “learned Brahmin advisors” over a period of 2000 years took Bharat and Bharatiya janta to the bottom of the pit of corruption.
      5. More corruption happened with the advent of muslims. Muslim rulers literally sold the country to the British.
      6. When the christian missionaries arrived…there was only corruption every where in India. They were right in blaming the Brahmins/priests, but the muslim rulers and the specially the corrupted janta was also to be blamed.
      7. Finally, whether we like it or not whenever a modern Indian (of any caste) stands up and announces to the world that India has produced texts like the Upanishads, and Brahma Samhita and Purans to name a few. (not mentioning the Vedas, those are supposed to be spoken by GOD Himself)…. remember all of these were written by BRAHMINS. So hating Brahmins (or anybody else for that matter) is not going to help anyone. History is history…that is how it happened. Question is what are you going to do for your country? Spread hate?

      • Dear Ms. Rita,

        As a Brahmin myself and a student of Sanathana Dharma, I can assure you that the Sastras were not written by the Brahmins. It is the collective experience of all castes over thousands of years.

        The Smritis have evolved over time and every 500 years or so, there came a person who documented the practices of his time and he was later revered as a Rishi.

        If we dissect the Indian Constitution, you will notice that the Hindu practices [I mean Hindu from the meaning of residents of Hindustan and that logically includes Muslims, Jains, Christians, Buddhists etc] have more or less be absorbed in many parts and from that perspective, the Constitution makers are a part of the lineage.

        Brahmins codified these practices and took the responsibility of sustaining many of the Sastras through parampara. That is their biggest contribution.

        I totally agree about Buddhism being the first organized non – Brahmin movement in India. What that movement achieved was that it softened the rigidity of Hinduism – even while Buddhism got corrupted. In later evolution [over the last 2,000 years] and definately after Shankaracharya, the society moved in a conciliatory fashion.

        While the efforts of Islamic and Christian theologians were there, what we must understand is that they became Hindus, rather than Hindu becoming Koranic or Bibilic – want proof: just hear the cry for reservations for Dalit Christians or Dalit Muslims

      • thank you.
        There are some Brahmins who aren’t as honest as you want to misguide other by creating such pages, webs, etc.

        It’s your highness that you aren’t such a villain as they are.
        thank you.

    • You are absolutely right about the Kshatriyas. Their role was to protect the society. Their job was legislation [like today’s MLA / MP] and protection [Defence forces].
      The Vyshas made all the money and they paid taxes and kept the state running. They are like the modern companies and salaried individuals.
      The other communities were in service. They contributed what they can in terms of time, effort and blood, more than in money. They kept the state running.
      In this dispensation, the role of the Brahmins was unique. Brahmin did not have power or money, but got enormous respect as the moral force to build a coalition and act as a moderator against any excesses of power or money. Their role was that of the Judges today. A judge can’t make anything happen outside his court, but he is equally feared by the politicians and officials.
      This coalition made India a stable civilisation.

    • Mr Sodhi,
      Read the Ramayana, The Mahabharata then you will know the role played by the Brahmans. The Vedas, The Upanishads etc are the gift of the Brahmans to the mankind. Do you know the real meaning of The Brahman, one who realized the ultimate source of knowledge.

    • SODHI, DO YOU NOW MY DEAR FREIND I HAVE ALL GONE THROUGH YOUR ARTICLE, BUT WHAT I EXPREESS HERE IT MAY BE HURTS TO OUR FOLLOWERS, I AM A CHITTPAWAN BRAHMAN. FIRST I HAVE TO MENTION I , IT IS OUR BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT WE HAVE OPENED THE KNOWLEDGE TO THE PERSONS WHO ARE NOT CAPABLE TO ACCEPT IT. nOW, WHAT ALL OTHER PEOPLES THINKS THAT MANU SMRUTI IS WRITTEN BY BRAHMINS, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL TRUE, MANU SMRUTI S WRITTEN BY MANU WHO IS ISWAKU VANSHIYA KSHATRIYA HE IS PREDESSOR OF RAM BUT THAT BLAME ALSO CAMES ON BRAHMINS, IN ALL THE FOUR VEDAS OR UPANISHADAS, OR PURANAS THERE IS NO INSCRIPTION OF JATI THERE ARE ONLY VARNAS . WHAT YOU ARE MENTIONED IS YOUR LAST THREE SENTENCES IS TOTALLY WRONG.. wNEN THE JAINISM AND BUDDHISM ARISES OR EXPLORES IN INDIA AT THAT TIME AT THE BORDERS OF HINDUSATN I AM NOT SAYING INDIA GET IT WELL THESE TWO COMMUNITIES ARE AT THE BORDER AND BECAUSE OF THEIR FOOLISHNESS NOT TO RAISE WEAPONS TAUGHT TO THEM BY THEIR ANCESTORS mANGOLSLIKE CHANGEZKHAN AND TAIMURLANG CONQUEAR INDIA. tHEY BOTH CAME HERE FOR ONLY ONE REASON TO FINISH THEE MOHAMMADS (THE FIRST PROPHETS FAMILY) AND THEN ALL THE CONQUERATIONS STARTS IN HINDUSTAN

  2. Mr Sodhi,

    You need to clearly go through the history .. from the very well time being .. only Kshatriyas are ruling .. now also the same. lower castes were in control of the Kshatriyas only .

    reading veda is not like reading story books , you have to toil your heart,body to learn it ..

    Before commenting just think once..

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  4. Earlier there were only 4 VARNAs not castes. In all varnas there were priests of their respect. After invasions and etc., by this time all castes have been evolved(we can say). To divide and rule. Otherwise our varna system was well organised of the world. Everybody will have their own employment and etc., Read history not of Pseudo-secular written, but of others or foreigners. do not post without knowledge.

      • Mr. Peterparker,

        Your understanding is wrong.

        The foundation of Hinduism were the 4 varnas, 4 purusharthas and 4 ashramas. These quadrants were the pillars of the society. Jatis became rigid recently. If castes were the pillars, then Drona could not become a warrior or Vishwamitra a Deva Rishi.

  5. 1)My response consists of two parts. The first part of the response is to the posting of Sodhi’s comment of April 25, 2013 at 11:26 pm, the second part is related to Brahmins.
    There are many people like Sodhi who ingested the venomous version of concocted history propagated by Hindu enemies for over two hundred years. As such I address Sodhi not as the representative of a group of ill-informed, sometimes motivated, sometimes hateful Hindus. Except the first sentence, the rest of what Sodhi mentioned is opposed to common sense, not to speak of higher logic. No doubt the Kshatriyas fought to protect Hinduism and laid down their lives. Being the section of Hindus primarily charged (not by Brahmins, but by common consent, usage and social dynamics) with the kshatra or protector/fighter duty, kshatriyas as rulers were the first to face the enemy on the battle field or in the diplomatic arena. In the civilizational conflict between Islam and Hinduism and later Christianity and Hinduism, it is the Kshatriya class, being the first and physical line of defence, bore the brunt and got decimated mostly. But it is foolish to say that only Kshatriyas fought in the battles- both physical and diplomatic. It is not an accident that our religion itself is described as Brahminism by our enemies. It is because the adversaries of Hinduism recognized the Brahmin class as the umbrella protector of Hindu society and culture. They not only provided the overall direction (in so far as it was accepted on its merits and followed by the other Hindus) to the Hindu civilization, but also taught the Hindus, fought for them, traded for them and served them all through the history. Most originators and precepters of Hindu knowledge- be it military science, weaponry, state-craft, codification of commercial knowledge beginning with Vedas and Puranas, to individual texts on scienes like krishi sastra, ayurveda etc., were Brahmins. The Brahmins taught kshatriyas their martial arts. Advised them on spiritual and secular matters as Raj-Purohits and Amatyas, acted as their guardians in times of crisis, saved the infant king-lings from their competitors through great personal sacrifice, commanded their armies, managed their treasuries, kept their forts, and so on and on. We need not go to Vasistha or Parasurama or Drona or Kripacharya. In our own time, after Independence you may count the number of Brahmin chiefs of army, the IAS and IPS. Prior to that you count the revolutionaries and freedom fighters who laid down their lives to get for the Hindus, including the remnant of kshatriyas, their independence. Go through Rowlatt Committee Report, on activities of Hindu revolutionaries who laid down their lives. You will find Brahmins among the top three upper castes who account for ninety percent of martyrs. The backward and scheduled castes do not figure anywhere near their number in that Official British Government Report. Moreover, the Report singles out the Brahmins as the source of seditious and revolutionary activities including political murders of British imperialists. And you read a book “Indian Unrest” by that arch imperialist Valentine Chirol. You will find that the British imperialists of that time feared one man like they feared no one. It was Lokamanya Tilak, a Brahmin for your information. You should read the book to know how much the white European christians feared and hence hated him. And that Brahmin inspired equally feared Brahmins like Veer Savarkar and others. And the Sodhis and their ilk accuse Brahmins of sitting idle in temples etc.,etc., Today it is the castes like the sc/st, OBC and of all the ones, the minorities(!) which have not done a fraction of what the Brahmins did are downplaying and denigrating the Brahmin contribution to the Hindu society and demanding major share of the fruits of development for themselves, nay ,they even want to totally deny the Brahmins their politico- economic share in the prosperity of free India by branding them as leisure -class, idle-class, exploiters, oppressors, Jews of India and what not. It is high time these other castes realize that, emboldened by their large head count they are playing a dangerous game. If the Brahmins keep low profile in the caste polemics, it is not because their case is weak or their claim on national wealth is shaky. It is only because they wish that the sections which suffered most under successive imperialisms (not under Hindu rulers or upper castes) should be uplifted from their fallen state. With that noble ideal in view they are putting up with unprecedented bad-propaganda and socio-politico-economic ill-treatment and denial of fair opportunities. It is they who supported, directly and indirectly, the legislative measures for the upliftment of the down-trodden sections. Their good will and sense of responsibility should not be taken as an admission of all kinds of accusations made against them by foul mouthed demagogues. It is quite the contrary. Let not the Brahmins taken too much for granted.
    One ridiculous charge made by the Sodhis is that the Brahmins took all the other castes for a ride for centuries together and made the latter dance to their tunes. This takes the form of such expressions like- ‘Brahmins divided the society’, ‘Brahmins denied education to others’, ‘Brahmins exploited other castes for centuries on end’ “Brahmins just sit in temple and do false prays to show people. They kept the hindus under the fear of god and wrote rules according their convenience. They dont work, they just sit in temples and eat free food given by people’s hard earned money”(sodhi).
    So are these people who are weeping over the centuries old Brahmin domination, exploitation, duping etc., admitting that their ancestors were fools, idiots or imbeciles or nincompoops to allow (what the Sodhis describe as) the handful of idle, incompetent, Brahmins to do what they are alleged to have done? If the answer is yes, whose fault is that? If no, why purvey false propaganda amounting to the wholesale character assassination and hate mongering towards Brahmin class leading to a possible genocide of Brahmins? Genocide? Exaggeration? No. It is no exaggeration. The Christian missionaries planned to exterminate Brahmins en-masse during the colonial days. And that mindset has not altogether changed. Note the speeches and writings of some of the Dalit, OBC and minority leaders now a days. You will understand the truth of the above statement. The Brahmins did no wrong or injustice or disservice to the Hindu society or any of its peoples. On top of it is the Brahmins who contributed to the overall good of the society more than any other section of Hindus in any field. No Brahmin need be apologetic or defensive in the face of abusive, insulting and baseless accusations against the Brahmin caste. At the same time there may be any number of bad apples among the Brahmin caste as among other castes. Such cases should be judged on individual basis. But taken as a group, the Brahmin contribution to Hinduism is no inferior, but in fact far superior to that of any other caste. It is high time both non-Brahmins and misguided Brahmins stop the hate campaign launched against Brahmins by the instigation of Hindu enemies who wish to see the disintegration of Hindu society.
    2) Now some points addressed to Brahmins: I am sure that most of you do not know most of what I mentioned above in defence of Brahmins and about the contribution of Brahmins to the Hindu society and its continued existence and progress. Unfortunately most of the modern educated, articulate Brahmins are suicidally selfish and ignorant of the vital issues that impinge on their very existence. It is their callous and shameless attitude that prevents the Brahmins from taking serious note of the innumerable allegations against their caste and applying themselves to investigate the truth or falsity of the allegations. They keep complaining about the shrinking social prestige, economic and educational opportunities for their youngsters, but show no will to remedy the situation through a detailed investigation of the factors that contribute to it or the forces that underlie the evil propaganda against their caste. In fact they do not seem to trace the shrinking of opportunities and prestige to the propaganda unleashed by the Brahmin baiters at all. They offer lame excuses like competition, corruption etc., as the causes for their debacle. Moreover it is the Brahmins, more than any other caste which has taken to whole hog imitation of western modes of thought and life style. It is the west christian imperialist propaganda that laid the foundation for the project ‘destroy Brahmin’ because the Brahmin proved to be the prime obstacle to the Christianization/westernization of Hindu society as a way to perpetuate British imperialism then. Now the same Christian propaganda, with slight changes is working against the Brahmins to perpetuate the same western imperialism under the leadership of America. The fact that some Hindus, including some Brahmins are co opted by the American administration does not change the basic equation. Present day Brahmins are mostly ignorant of the big picture in which their fate is decided. The well to do among them are only bothered about their pay packets, personal comforts and foreign education. The majority who are indigent are hopelessly ill treated by the society in all respects. It is time for the Brahmins with some means to deploy those means to gain a clear picture of the forces working against them and to put a check to those forces. Otherwise the future of Brahmins is bleak indeed. Prasad.

  6. A fair point that I would like to raise here is that why throughout history small nations with meagre armies were able to invade a great country like ours. Was it because Brahmins are peace loving. From the above blogs it does not seem to be so. The only reason these invasions happened was that the brahmins were so abusive that the other castes actually welcomed these saviours from outside. You can see the same mentality even today(you need to see only some of the above blogs to corroborate).The only solution to problems facing India is to drive these bloody brahmins out of India or forcefully change their surnames. Enough of fucking over mythical characters of the likes of this mitra or that. These brahmins should hide their identity and contribute to a strong modern India.

  7. Traitors like this faggot Anshu Bose deserves his head to cut off from his body.

    Either he is a fucking mulla posing as a Hindu or he is really ashamed of himself and his ancestors.

    Thuh thujpe Anshu Bose , Bangali kehlane ke layak nahi hai tu.

    You are a disgrace for a Bengali. Its people like you who are a disgrace to my community.

    I am damn proud of my Kshatriya – Rajputs, Gurjar Pratiharas, Jats and Brahmin brothers and every other Nationalist Hindu Indians of all caste groups from North to South.

  8. Hi Friends,

    I really pity on the mentality / intellectual of Mr. Sodhi. This condition is not only true with him but with most of the other fellow Indians who are our brothers & sisters where the invaders have actually brain washed successfully. To write this, I feel really sad that still we are not trying to understand our Sanatana Dharma. As a non-brahmin, with my limited knowledge, I’m still trying know this through lot of channels. As per my understanding, if you are really a truth seeker then please read & understand the Bhagvad Geeta, where Lord Krishna has clearly has siad what is Varnas & who is a real Brahmin. I bet this would be a real eye opener for all of us.

    Thank You

  9. It is not without reason that the Tamils, Christian missionaries and others do not like Brahmins. Even today, this group still carry fancy ideas of superiority and practice untold atrocities to people of other communities. That is one of the reasons that religions like Christianity and Islam could take root in the country.

    Take the state of Karnataka for example. This is a state where the people are still steeped in superstition and Brahmin domination. Even in Bangalore, these worthies rule the roost. It is a common practice for the priests of temples in Bangalore to ask for the caste or gotra of the worshippers while doing puja. Besides, in many residential localities, Brahmins occupy all the controlling posts in the Associations and Governing Bodies. Then they start implementing all kinds of undemocratic and dictatarian laws meant to control and dominate others. Besides they do next to nothing to help the society and people at large. It is a wonder that the people of Karnataka and Bangalore have not been able to see through their game. It is high time that they were thrown out unceremoniously. Perhaps what we need is a Nazi Germany like persecution of Brahmins in Karnataka.

    • Yes, so let us have a fight.

      And on persecution of brahmnas in karnataka, all days are not sundays.

      The tide always change the direction.

    • My friend, Dheeraj Kumar, do you really believe that 5 crores Kannadigas are idiots and spineless wonders, who know no better than to give up independence and thought power to a few selfish fellows [who have done nothing good].

  10. • Taken from: Geeta saroddhara by Shri Shri Vishvesha teertha swamiji, Pejavara maTha, Udupi (Chapter no. 36)

    Translated to English by: Shri R Acharya and Shri R A Malagi

    The cause for gradation in devotion and religious practices lies in God’s own system of creation in consonance with the intrinsic nature and individuality of souls. God has not invented this difference or gradation. The individual qualities are natural and eternal; and it is but natural that there should be difference in the quality of aspirants in God’s creation, which is based on a set of facts like intrinsic difference of souls.

    cAturvarNyaM mayA sRuShTaM guNakarmavibhAgashaH |
    tasya kartAramapi mAM viddhyakartAramavyayam || 4.13 ||

    Sri Krishna says that He has Himself brought about this caste system in conformity with the nature and aptitude for work of the individual only. The superficial meaning of the above stanza is quite confusing. There is no reason for Sri Krishna to talk about caste system when he is describing the difference between people who perform action under the urge of desire and others who do it desirelessly. It is irrelevant, at this point, whether the society is divided into castes by birth or by qualities. So, we should not take the fourfold pattern to be wholly identical with the current caste system.

    Besides, it is contrary to fact to assert that individual qualities and ways depend on the caste division. Serenity of mind and discipline of the body are not the exclusive prerogative of any one caste. They may be found in people belonging to all the four castes. It is quite possible to find a higher sense of devotion and good conduct in a Vaishya or a Shudra than in a so-called high-caste Brahmin. There is no total consistency between the classification of souls on the basis of intrinsic virtues mentioned in the Geeta and the present caste system. And it would be unrealistic to forge a new system of castes on the basis of the intrinsic qualities and ways. One and the same person may behave in different ways in entirely different circumstances. In such a situation, it would be impracticable to go on changing the caste system from moment to moment, as the system is based on specialised cultivation, occupation and pursuit. Besides, it is also possible that much friction would be generated while determining the existence or absence of spiritual qualities. It may be possible to make use of the peculiar radiance of individual virtues while determining a person’s attainment. If we try to restructure society on the basis of individual assessment, we are but courting perpetual conflict. Hence it is clear that we can not divide a community into different social classes and castes on the basis of individual nature. Nor is it possible to adjust the classification by qualities with the present caste system. For example, a Brahmin is supposed to possess some virtues. But we see in every day life instances in which such virtues as are lacking in Brahmins are amply found in Non-Brahmins. How can we say that these virtues are the prerogatives of only those who are born in a Brahmin family and not of others? It would be a sheer contradiction of fact. Hence we must examine carefully the exact import of Sri Krishna’s reference to the caste system.

    Sri Madhvacharya has explained this point clearly in his commentary on the Geeta. He has explained that the four divisions of the caste system do not belong to the human body but to the soul; the souls are categorised into four groups depending upon their nature, quality and propensity. The good souls which are worthy of salvation are classified into four divisions. All these have a preponderance of the sattvaguNa the differentia among them is due to the permutations of the qualities of rajoguNa and tamoguNa only, and on the basis of this difference of combination only they are classified fourfold. Devotion to God and control over the senses are basic to all. They are divided into four classes only on the basis of the degree of the two great qualities possessed by each. Such is the fourfold system, based on the intrinsic nature of the soul, propounded in the Geeta.

    svAbhAvikO brAhmaNAdiH shamAdyairEva bhidyate |
    yOnibhEdakRuto bhEdO j~jEya caupAdhikastvayam |
    viShNubhaktishcAnugatA sarvavarNEShu vispatiM |
    Arabhya hIyatE&thApi bhEdaH svAbhAvikastataH ||

    (The natural differentiation into castes like Brahmins and others is according to the qualities of devotion to God etc., while the classification according to birth is conditioned by external factors.)

    We can resolve the society into four classes like Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra in two ways. One is by birth, and the other by the inner qualities of the soul. The former classification is conditional or artificial while the latter is intrinsic. It is not proper to judge a man only by the accident of his birth. We should judge him by his behaviour, deed and character. The latter method of classification appears to be more natural and more enduring, as it is based on the essential nature of the soul and not on the physical attributes.

    If categorisation into castes by birth is useful for social organisation and for the observance of religious ceremonies according to the prescriptions of the shastras, the division on the basis of the intrinsic nature of the souls is foundational being based on matters of spiritual practice and meditation.

    Even though by birth one is a Shudra, if he is rich in noble qualities like self-control and serenity of mind he is verily a Brahmin from the point of view of the soul. On the other hand, even if he is a Brahmin by birth, if he is poor in these qualities, he is verily a Shudra. Thus an individual should not be measured by his caste and birth only. We should assess him on the basis of his conduct, his intensity of devotion and intrinsic virtues.

    The physical body may be of a high caste Brahmin but it does not follow that the soul it covers is necessarily qualitatively superior. The import of the Geeta is that the greatness of the soul is to be measured by the yardstick of virtues reflected in his good deeds and good nature.

    Therefore in the Bhagavata it is said:
    A Pariah who is a devotee of God is far better than even a Brahmin if he is ungodly.

    In the Mahabharata parable of Dharmavyadha also it is stated:
    A Shudra with noble qualities like self-control and truthfulness is indeed a Brahmin; a man is to be identified as a Brahmin only by his noble deeds.

    In answering a question by Yaksha, it is stated that virtuous character alone is the distinguishing cause of being a Brahmin. All this is not written to cry down the present caste system. Its main purpose is to highlight the importance of good character and conduct in identifying noble souls.

    This does not mean the physical caste system in spite of its conditioning factors, laid down in our scriptures, is superfluous. It is most essential for determining the duties and responsibilities of each person and for religious pursuits. But we cannot determine the worthiness or otherwise of a soul for salvation just by considering his birth and caste. Even if we classify religious rituals and pursuits on the basis of the external attributes of caste and birth, we cannot determine the worthiness for salvation on that basis. We cannot also decide about the spiritual qualifications like devotion, prayerfulness etc. and the genuine honesty of a person on the basis of birth or caste. The one born as a Brahmin does not automatically possess great virtues like devotion and discipline. We have to assess a man only on the basis of right conduct and the particular combination of the three gunas. Good qualities and good nature should be discovered and honoured wherever and in whatever caste they are found. It is to enable us to identify this fundamental good nature among men that the Geeta has laid down this categorisation. The caste system referred to in the Geeta is not a classification based on accidental attributes of birth but a classification of good souls in our society. Such a classification which depends upon the essential, deeper qualities will bring about harmony among the members of the different communities for the good of the society as a whole, compensating for the gaps left by the caste system based on accidental features.

    According to the Geeta, the caste system is nothing but a community of noble souls. To them God has given physical bodies and other accessories and brought them into this world. Hence, He has helped us more than our parents and teacher. We should not forget such a Being and run after others inferior to Him for our worldly rewards. Hence all good souls are to be devoted entirely to the Supreme Lord of the Universe who is full of all the auspicious qualities. Forgetting Him we should not run after lesser deities, spirits or other persons for any worldly rewards. The Supreme Lord is one and only one. In Him we should have faith, confidence and devotion.

    • certainly, the caste is not something one can choose at some point in life. one is born in a family according his deeds of the past. Like Bhagavad-Gita says, when one is well on the way but dies, he will be reborn in a good family of Yogis. So, the the Karma is well responsible in which family one is born.
      In any case, one has to do one’s “alloted duty” and not the one, one chooses. Gita does not say “do your chosen duty” but the allotted duty, the one to which one was born..

    • re. “A Pariah who is a devotee of God is far better than even a Brahmin if he is ungodly.”:
      That is correct and logical BUT this does NOT mean at all htat the pariah BECOMES a brâhmana! That Pariah has maybe better attitude towars God but he will not change his status. Brahmin, although deficient, will by his origin stay a Brahmin.
      This system actually saved the Vedic culture and Veda Path in the past when Missionaries and others tried to extinguish Vedic Knowledge.
      And the stubborness in maintaining Veda by the Brahmin family tradition (from father to son, etc.) has made the christians very very angry. And the hate-filled Anti-Brahmanism was propagated.

    • Re. “In the Mahabharata parable of Dharmavyadha also it is stated:
      A Shudra with noble qualities like self-control and truthfulness is indeed a Brahmin; a man is to be identified as a Brahmin only by his noble deeds.”:
      You are cherry-picking as it fits to you. There are hundreds of other verses strongly emphasizing the purity of family and varna dharmas.

      This verse is certainly right but it is obviously illustrative for teaching purposes. A Brâhmana’s highest duty is to maintain the chanting of Shabda-Brahma, the Veda Path, and perform yagyas for the well-fare of the society. And, above all, maintain pure and focussed life. All these duties are just impossible if you don’t learn them from the earliest age. Born, for example, in a vaishya family, one naturally learns all about commerce etc. All the family connections to other businessmen, and all the resulting benefits from it, would be lost, if the son suddenly finds he loves chanting Veda, etc, etc.

      such society would have been lost in a short period of time. India is the oldet surviving culture – due to the varnaashrama perfect social order.

  11. Oh, yes, the Christian missionaries hated, and still do, the Brahmins because they have protected the Vedic knowledge stubornly. Missionaries did not find their job as easy as it was for example in Africa or America.

  12. Portuguese and British missionaries may be wrong in trying to convert mass sections of the indian society to Christianity, but they were right on the dot in saying that Brahminism is the real curse of India. In fact, one should stop calling the religion Hinduism, or Sanatana Dharma, as some of the right wing activists insist on calling this conglomeration of castes and sects and idol worshippers, and start calling it Brahminism.

    In Karnataka, it is common for priests to ask for one’s caste when doing a puja in the temple. There is widespread anger and disillusionment in the poor people. The Brahmins and the other powers that be do not spare any thought for the upliftment of the poor and neglected sections of the society. They are busy trying to uplift themselves, at the the expense of others.

    Compare this to Kerala, where Christian missionaries have set up schools, colleges, hospitals, and charitable institutions along the length and breadth of the state. The standard of living of the people as a whole is much higher, when compared to neighboring states, as well as the country as a whole. Now you find poor laborers, unskilled and semi skilled workers coming from Bihar, West Bengal, Orissa, and other states flocking to the state since the wages offered are higher. Of course, due to high Christian and Muslim missionary activity, the political and economic power in the state is now firmly in the hands of Christians and Muslims, with adequate support from the Congress government. Besides, Communist activism prevents any companies from setting up their plants in Kerala.

    All said and done, Brahmins, and the institution of the caste system has done more harm than good to India. It is high time people took it into their hands to kick out these rascals from all positions of power. That they will not leave voluntarily is a given. The only way to remove casteism from the society is by firm and forceful actions. The Western imperialist powers may have done much damage to India, but they were right about at least one thing—Brahminism and casteism is responsible for many ills facing the country today.

  13. Denigrating has become populist nature, Before defaming first read the sacred books or vedas thoroughly , understand it.. The remarkable contribution of bramhins to bhakti cult Dasasahitya (total succour to supreme being) Purandarsa Dasaru the pioneer of carantic music, The man of infinity Sirnivasa Ramanujan, Tatya Tope, Jhansi Rani Laxmibai, C V Raman, CN R Rao and so on.. This nation is of shades of different diversity, to Build the Nation the contribution of each community is needed.. snub of brahmins will en-route to apartheid policy

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  15. I am absolutely disgusted with this hatred. You bahujans have lived with us all these years you know what we are and yet you believe any half cooked truth foreigners tell about us without considering our characters for one moment. You do Not make any investigations. Intelligence does Not mean cunning.
    I am a niyogi brahmin, meaning I do Not study vedas or practice priesthood. I live a common life like you. We used to hold office in olden times. We did Not hate anyone or spread hatred. Yet you try to put us down what wrong did we do? Shri P V Narasimha Rao, a niyogi , was instrumental in inviting dr. Manmohan singh into finance minister position and took foriegn investment from 150 cr to well over 6600 cr. Yet what did he get? The congress high command did Not allow his dead body into the hall and he had to be burnt with AP state honours. Is this fair for a PM? No one supported mr Rao. Pls think about what you are doing.

  16. And you say that brahmins and their caste system put all others down. Before u pass any judgement over brahmins hear my point of view

    I am a niyogi. “Niyogi” means appointed. Our ancestors left priesthood atleast 1000 – 700 years ago. We have been living in Andhra Pradesh as officers. We do Not follow manusmriti. We follow Apastmba smriti which is written much before manusnriti and therefore much liberal. It is so liberal that many of ud have allowed local black people to our fold. But then these mad priests took over from us and established manusmriti. When we saw uneducated ppl and asked why they did Not study, they said we are Not supposed to study. We asked priests what is all this, they said if vedas are read by others, the end time prophecy will be fulfiled and destruction would occur. We had no such prophecy in our traditions but priests would Not listen ti us. We are from Andhra and we educated local ppl there sufficiently. We always suspected something was wrong with this religion but we could Not do anything for we did not have religious authority or study scriptures.

    Brahmins believed that the ancient knowledge that was from God and these stupid caste system and rules was also from God so if God put those rules we have to obey without question. Only after Dr Ambedkar did research and told us the true history of the caste system, we opened our eyes.

    We niyogis bore these ridiculous rules because we had to Not because we wanted to. Our repentance no one knows. Our grief no one knows. I Dont know about the others but I am sorry for all that happened. I’ve had enough of the caste system. It’s an Administrator’s nightmare.

    The veda is not education. It is a collection of laws, facts and prayers. Believe me you all are well off without studying it. I Dont know abt other sects but we did not deny anyone education. In fact we supported bahujan education. We always knew caste was duty and Not divine. I mean what did god care if you worked as a priest or farmer all he wants is devotion. Manusmriti basically undermines this. It divides people strictly into castes, while apastamba smriti considers caste only as duty, non-aryan can become one of aryan castes in it provided he fulfils certain requirements. The manusmriti is just madness.

  17. All u ppl believe whatever anyone tells about us. But think for one moment
    If we did all those alleged crimes, would you have let us live? Why would anyone follow morally corrupt leaders? I recently read from a Christian author that brahmins beat, rape, torture dalit women alonc with the other upper castes. Do u believe it? Did we do it to anyone let alone dalits? The upper castes did all those politics to extend their political power. What need did we have? And they weote that we married dalit women and did all attrocities. Such are these foreigners. They do anything for power. These same people put up hoardings like “xyz sharma” or Joshi converted to Christianity to attract masses. We read such nonsense all over net and Dont know what it is,or,what to,do. And others join in and support those claims. I say what is all this nonsense? What di we do that u hate us so much? Once one crime is proved it is assumed that they did no good and all the good did by us is put down. We gave u many things but in return u are discriminating against brahmins. We never did anyone any wrong except by believing those stupid rules and enforcing them.That too the priests did, not us. Pls believe us we are highly civilized people. We did no one no wrong.

  18. Sorry I mean by “our gulit and repentemce no one knows?” I mean that we niyogis were sad to see all of u suffering and we felt sad and we repented a lot for it.

  19. Good in comments.. again we started in fighting among our self , this was the main reason.. for other take advantage ..
    always we divided by caste or region , one advantage is because of other religions we now know we need to be united always and it not like olden day ..

  20. After my response two years ago, I find many comments posted on this topic.Some are genocidal,some are hateful, some are defensive and apologetic, some are confused but most are ignorant. Let me take up one specimen and put across my observations.
    Let me comment on the specimen offered by kiran(nov 21,22, 2014).his comments are apologetic, guilty, ignorant and confused. He says he is a Niyogi brahmin and tries to distance himself from the priestly brahmins. Accuses the latter of all the alleged ills attributed to brahmins. He also denigrates Manu as against Apastamba. As he rightly says, niyogis are brahmins who occupied various secular positions in government,military and other occupations in the olden days. Yet it is not only the niyogis, but non-niyogis also took up secular occupations according to the exegencies of history. In the Telugu country, the niyogi-vaidiki(non-niyogi) division came to be formalized during the time of Kakatiya Emperor Ganapatideva in 13th century. That was done by appointing thousands of brahmins as villege accountants(karanams) in order to save the Sanatani Hindu community from the severe harassment committed by the existing Jaina karanams who were waging a sort of religious war on Sanatani Hindus. By a mass retrenchment of most jaina karanams and placing hindu-brahmin karanams in their place, the inter religious crisis was diffused. Yet the jainas bided their time and kept on causing trouble to the kakatiya kingdom in spite of the liberal policy adopted by the kakatiyas towards all religious communities including jainas. Those priestly, veda chanting brahmins who were entrusted(=niyoga) with the secular jobs were gradually came to be called as niyogi brahmins. In the earlier days of this momentous change, vedic chanting and secular job went together.Examples of niyogis performing yajnas and other priestly functions as well as secular functions were Tikkana Somayaji and his brother Khadga-Tikkana. They were contemporaries of Kakati Ganapatideva. But slowly, the secular job got better of the vedic chanting because of sheer human limitations. The niyogis, though not disqualified, abandoned their priestly functions. For this the so called liberality of Apastamba smriti over Manu smriti has nothing to do. In fact, according to the knowers of dharma shastras, no other smriti is more comprehensive, consistent, and rational than manu smriti. But the point is that manu smriti is not applicable in kali-yuga, but Parasara smriti is applicable. And Apastamba smriti, although falls in the class of smritis, belongs to a different sub-class of smritis. What kiran is referring to is perhaps Apastamba Grihya Sutra(also called Apastamba sutra for short). Grihya sutras guide the household functions of Hindus. Apastamba grihya sutras cover not only niyogis but non-niyogis as well. In fact grihya sutras are binding on all adherents of vedic religion though most adherents(including brahmins) are ignorant of this fact. But ignorance is no excuse.
    Then he says something that is serious enough to put him outside the pale of hinduism itself. He says veda is not education! the very name veda is derived from the root vid which means jnanam (knowledge). To know what lies in the veda, one has at least to read it in english translation. The UNO has recently recognized the veda as valuable human heritage. kiran in his blissful but suicidal ignorance denies any value to the veda. I can only offer a couple of examples to show what kind of ‘education’ the veda contains. Erwin Schrodinger, the originator of wave mechanics in modern physics said(as per his biographer Walter Moore) that the vedic concepts like Tat Tvam Asi helped him to understand his own subject better. Panini’s name is very familiar to computer scientists now a days. He was a sanskrit grammarian but today he is recognized as the foremost mathematician and information scientist. Sanskrit grammar(vyakarana) is one of the six limbs of veda(limb of veda is called veda anga or vedanga). If a mere limb is held in such a high esteem by the modern scientists, then imagine what kind of knowledge the main body called veda contains! And you know, the inventor of periodic table of elelments, Mendeleev was so impressed by panini’s scientific prowess that he added sanskrit prefixes to eight of the elements in the periodic table. A third example is Shulba-geometry which is part of another limb of the veda called Kalpa. Shulba is not mere geometry but algebraic geometry. It had formed the seed of the mathematics in such ancient civilizations as Egypt and Babylonia. There are hundreds of printed books dealing with the history of science in india which give details of scientific output in the veda not to speak of other ‘educative’ subjects. Just go through one book ‘Concise History of Science in india’ by Datta, Ray and Subbarayappa, published by the Indian National Science Academy, New Delhi. Yet Kiran says veda is no education.My foot. How do I know all this? I spent my time and money to know these things while at the same time doing my job, rearing my family and discharging other social responsibilities. This I did for some decades. How about the kirans and others who blindly lash out at their own mother called veda.
    Then kiran complements Dr.Ambedkar for the wrong reason. Ambedkar is to be credited for seeing through the west christian game of driving wedge between sections of Hindus in the name of aryan-dravidian divide and outright rejecting the Aryan Invasion Theory as a figment of concocted history.
    Veda is not kept away from anyone in the Hindu society. We live veda in our daily lives in whatever diluted manner. Veda contains cryptic information in the form of mantras. It requires the knowledge of six sciences called Vedangas to understand veda. This is beyond the capability of most hindus. therefore Veda Vyasa himself prepared the popular version of veda in the form of eighteen major puranas and eighteen minor puranas along with mahabharata which is the fifth veda in popular format. These puranas he taught to his non-brahmin pupil named Romaharshana Suta(a Sudra by caste) to be popularized among all sections of hindus. Romaharshna suta taught his son Ugrasrava. Ugrasrava Sauti firtst recited the puranas to a congregation of rishis (most of them brahmins) led by Shaunaka at the Naimisha Forest on the occasion of a twelve year Satra(yajna). In course of time the puranas which are in sanskrit language became out of reach to the people. Therefore the puranic information was rendered in still more popular literary forms in regional languages. These literary forms covered the kavya, prabandha, nataka,yakshagana, pada sahitya, etc. Simultaneously the vedic knowledge was rendered accessible to illiterate housewives, mendicants, farmers, artisans and village performers through folk art and literary forms. We are enjoying all those popular art forms at present which carry the popular version of veda. Still we shout ‘veda is monopolized by the brahmin!’ This is the height of idiocy. It only reveals our tamasic, asuric mindset. Yes, much of our traditional-informal-vedic education system is destroyed and is rendered shapeless. Whose fault is that? Right from the days of greek, huna,saka invasions to the later muslim, christian invasions, hindu society faced calamities unheard of in the history of any other nation. Yet we survived albeit with a battered tradition. Instead of sympathizing and re-energizing the tradition, we are bent upon misunderstanding,misinterpreting it and hating it and ultimately wishing its demise. Is there a crazier, more suicidal race than Hindus? This kind of behaviour of hindus reminds me of a sanskrit saying:

    yathaa kharah chandana bhaara vaahee/ bhaarasya vettaa na tu chandanasya//

    a donkey carrying a load of sandal wood is conscious only of the load but not of its value.

    I ardently wish that sanity dawns on hindus of all castes and they realize the true value and also the pitiable state of their common legacy.

    As for the blindly mad remarks of others, it is futile to try to educate them except asking them to draw whatever lessons they can from the above lines. If they still feel the same as before, then there is no other go except to leave them in their present tamasic state.
    prasad.

  21. I observe that Sodhi has left just “one” comment and it has almost started a war (of words). Lets not fight. Everyone had ups and downs, good and bad in them. Its a human nature to corrupt and redeem eventually.

  22. With the eradication of the traditional hereditary priesthood and law givers, (Brahmins) by the British since 1857 and their stooges since 1921 and with the confiscation of Temples, Commonwealth and Traditional Schools through out British India in 1923, and followed through by the Nehru-Gandhi-Ambedkar WOGs of the Indian Republic who turned Hindus in third class citizens by the 1949 Constitution and confiscated temples, commonwealth and educational facilities in what was left of India, including former princely states in 1959, Hinduism was turned into a vacuum in which a thousand cults bloomed.

    Hinduism is a defunct Nation that was named by the Persians in the pre Avestan (Vedai) Period and persisted till 1921 under Brahmanical Aryan law. The Nation comprised any number of religions and cultures including Matriarchy, Poly Gamy, Poly Andry an literally, almost every temple was a religion and a culture in its own right within an over arching law and an all pervading Brahamancial Vedic tradition. The eradication of Hinduism that was begun after 1857 became a scientific British Pogrom after 1921. In the North, an Englishman of the Indian Political Service converted and thereby infiltrated Sikhism and, in 1923, sowed the seeds of the Akali Movement in the minds of Kartar Singh and Karag Singh at Sialkot which implanted ideas more in line with Islam such as iconoclasm and the notion of Nation hood to turn the Sikhs against the Hindus. Nanak had founded Sikhism to reform Brahmanism and the execution of Ramdas led Gobind Singh to form the Khalsa to which were give the first born of the Hindus to protect them from the Moslems. However the Akalis removed Nanak’s Surya Narayanana from the Hari Mandir and moved Gobind Singh’s Amba Bhavani to the Durgiani Mandir. The Sikhs had been a House divided since well before that when the British used them as well as the Pathans to blow the remnants of the Bengal Native Infantry from the cannon’s mouth and massacre the Brahmins, (man, woman and child) in the Bengal Presidency in 1857. In 1921, in the Madras Presidency, where Hinduism had better survived the depredations of Ashoka and the Moslems and had received salutary protection and encouragement of such enlightened Britishers as Sir Thomas Munro and Sir Mark Cubbon, the British, recognizing that Brahamanisn was the soul of Hinduism established their anti-Brahmin stooges, “The Justice Party” (the progenitor of the Dravid-Dalit movements that have continued the British pogrom to this day) to eradicate Brahmanism. Apart from spreading canards to discredit Brahmanism and turning their strengths of poverty, learning, custody of justice, trusteeship of the temples and common wealth, and small numbers into weaknesses, in 1923, the British Stooge Rao Bahadur Sir Patro, an Oriyan Zamindar of the Justice Party appointed by the British as Chief Minister of the Madras Presidency promulgated the Communal Gazetted Order 613 of 1923 to persecute Brahmins in all walks of life from education, to health services, to court proceedings, to employment and land ownership. Though repealed, the essential pogrom continued, unofficially and unstated, to this day through out South India. In 1923, the British Stooges also took over the temples, swamping the congregational welfare system that had been under Brahmin Trusteeship, with Non Brahmins and began the plunder of Temple lands, resources and assets that continued with renewed vigour after 1947. In the period 1921 to 1935, the House of Lords conjured up the “Divide to rule” Government of India Act (1935) which in 1949 was plagiarized by the Constituent Assembly (also known as Ambedkar under Nehru’s whip) into the Indian Constitution after adding an entirely meaningless and grandiose preamble and “fundamental rights” (to appease the idealists) and including such notions as “Four legs Good, Two Legs Bad”, inequality under law, exceptions to the rule of law and “The Many Nations Theory” that Nehru and Ambedkar borrowed from such sources as “Animal Farm’ by George Orwell. In 1959, the secular Indian Government took over the temples and Hindu establishments through out what remained of India including the former princely states where Hinduism had enjoyed a brief respite from British Stooge depredations that commenced in 1923. The Indian Republic has realized British ambitions beyond any kind of recovery and destroyed Hinduism. Today Hinduism is what is decreed by “secular” courts and government. Such temples as are not already plundered for wealth distributed to members of the ruling elites are under the administration of those whom the British made “Hindus in Law”, anti-Brahmin i.e. anti Hindu forces as wells as WOG (Convented Secularist) Moslem or Christian administrators..

    In 1959, the Indian Republic confiscated the Temples and the Religious endowments of the Upper Castes who had been rendered Third Class Citizens by the Indian Constitution in 1949, completing a task begun by the British in 1857 and carried on to good effect by their Dalit-Dravid stooges since 1921 to destroy Hinduism. The Indian Constitution of 1949, that enshrined inequality under law and exceptions to the rule of law and the 1959 law that took over the temples of the erstwhile kingdoms for the plunder and loot of the ruling classes including the funding of churches, madrassas and Haj pilgrimages rather than establishing schools centered on Vedic education and Ayur Veda hospitals for congregational benefit replaced Hinduism with a “secular” Government notion with the approval of the “secular” courts that were driven by “four legs good, two legs bad”, Dalit, Christian, Moslem. and other notions about what Hinduism must be. As a result, while Jallykattu is banned as cruel to animals, Halal is widely celebrated and while Karthikai Deepam is banned at Tirupurakundram, the violence of illegally amplified Aazan continues five times a day. The ancient “Made Snana” at the Kukke Subrahmany has been banned by India’s corrupt, non erudite and incompetent courts at the behest of non-Hindus who neither participate in this form of worship nor are compelled in any way to do so.

  23. All Indians live in poverty equally now irrespective of their castes and religions. Leave out %age and top few among. The divisive seeds flourished as 1600 years Tree. We will continue !

  24. Varna Vyavastha is based on GunKarma as is told in Gita. Now this Gun are three types Satva , Raj and Tam. Satva represents total orientation towards Atma. Tam represents ignorance, darkness, orientation towards nidra and maithun. Raj is a Gun which is mix of Satva and Tam and is orientation towards Karma . When a person starts doing Sadhana for self realisation, his Varna decides kind of Sadhana suitable for him and it also decides his subtle orientations in Sadhana. Thus Varna is not decided by birth but is decided by prominence of either of the Gunas in that person. This is not related to birth so is not related to caste. If a person is Satva dominated then his natural orientation is towards Nishkam Ishwar Upasana, and this person is well established in his experience of self(Atman) with this comes all great qualities like equanimity, truth,detachment from earthly desires and kindness towards all. These persons are of Brahmin Varna , irrespective of their caste. Those in whom Satva-Raj mix is dominant with Satva being stronger than Raj. These persons are again highly orientated to Sadhana, but not totally. There are some worldly desires present but they fight against it till the win and establish themselves firmly in Atma. This quality of fighting with demons from within without running away is the main quality of Kshatriya. This person is very true to his Sadhna and brave, truthful and selfless. When a Sadhak person has Raj-Tam combination with Raj dominant between two of them this Sadhak has lot of worldly desires and also desires a lot of fruits from Sadhana like good health, good fortune etc. His sadhana is for these fruits. So he is always calculating his gains and losses. This person is Vaishya. But he too is Sadhaka. His main focus of life and Sadhana is gain and loss. But Sadhana he does honestly, he is looking for fruits and is nothing selfless like Kshatriya. And when Tam is dominating a person, he is not oriented towards Atma at all. Even when he is told about Atma and Sadhana , his mind finds it very difficult to comprehend the teachings. This person serves the Sages and saints for getting oriented in Sadhana Path. These persons are Shudra by Varna. This Varna Vibhag is based on dominant Gun and the type of Sadhana Karma which comes with it. The Guna dominance is decided by Karmas of previous births and a person is born with dominance of particular Guna that way it is related to birth but not caste. Those who go beyond three gunas by virtue their Sadhana and become one with god are Sant Mahapurush. Giving great lectures doesn’t make man Sant Mahapurush. These Sant Mahapurush are the only precious gems of this world. This explanation which I have tried to reproduce is from Adhyatmik Definition of Bhagvadgita. Its very clear from it that Varnas are completely Sadhana sensitive. In todays world where we are not even thinking of realising Atma or Ishwar , by and large 99.99% of us are from Shudra , no matter which caste we are born in.

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  27. Please leave all your arguments and just keep one thing in mind that if you find another brahmin,
    help him/her to progress
    by giving chance to get promoted, to get education, to start business anything
    but dont argu
    we all know, now we all brahmin have become minority and treated like low class
    we dont have any special treatment the way these low caste people are getting.
    So, instead of fighting between us, lets help each other, support each other
    then only we will grow
    we already have mind power, thinking power and today also these low caste people are afraid of our intellectual ability
    so lets start building our community as it was…
    still it is.. we just have to wake up!

  28. Hari Om!
    I don’t know whether this will be appreciated or not! Best thing for Brahmins may be to accept voluntary social isolation. Just minimum involvement with society for sustenance and fulfill obligations and responsibilities towards society. No need to crave for fame and fortune in society. Spend as much time as possible in social isolation and solitude learning, reflecting, practising the eternal truths and spiritual practices as laid out in the Vedic Scriptures. Let us spend our time, energy and resources in the service of our Rishi culture. Withdraw from the madness of the world. Our eternal Rishis will lead us, guide us through the rough seas of human life to seek the noblest purpose of human birth and life. This course of action will also promote and foster universal well-being in the world.
    There is no need to prove any points to the world regarding us. Just silently withdraw from the restlessness of the world to the lasting calmness and peace of the Vedic heritage and culture.
    Om Shanthi, Shanthi, Shanthi!